GENERALLY, DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF ONE'S BIRTH, LOCATION, TIME, COUNTRY ETC., ONE COULD BE INDOCTRINATED TO BE ANY OF A NUMBER OF THE WORLD'S RELIGIONS BY THE PARENTS ONE RECEIVED AT BIRTH, THUS HAVING LITTLE CHOICE IN THE FINAL OUTCOME. THUS, THE TRUTH WOULD BE SET FOR SUCH A ONE. I WOULD LIKE TO THINK IF THAT ONE WERE ME, THAT I WOULD NOT ACCEPT WHAT I WAS TOLD TO BE THE TRUTH , BUT SEEK ANSWERS EVERYWHERE I COULD LOOK, AND THEN ARRIVE AT MY OWN TRUTH, BECASUE GOD, OR THE CREATOR, HAS GIVEN MY THE POWER TO DO SO.
I AM NOT ANYTHING, THEREFORE, BUT A TRAVELER ON A QUEST TO FIND MY TRUTH AND ITS A LONG JOURNEY WITH MANY TWISTS AND DEAD ENDS. THE PROCESS IS COMPELLING FOR ME, MUST BE OF USE TO ME, OTHERWISE I WOULD STOP AND ACCEPT ANY ANSWERS THAT WERE OFFERED TO ME. I TRAVEL ON.
Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
- Proverbs 3:5
I agree with Braling II. Well said. Why someone constructs words and phrases and ideas as they do will forever be on the discussion table concerning great poets and writers.
Q: Do you believe in the devil?
Evil is real, but an external being who causes it is a human projection of part of our own reality into the external world of being. The devil is an excuse, someone to blame, part of the system of control that religious institutions set up to keep themselves dominant.
Belief in an external devil has done more harm than we can imagine. Executing the witches of Salem, Massachusetts, is only one of them.
It is time for the human race to grow up and let go of these childish ideas.
- John Shelby Spong
Give 'em hell, Bishop!
If Mary Bradbury would have been executed we'd not have Ray Bradbury.
John King Tarpinian
You know what you are, Mr. Bradbury? ... You are a poet! -- Aldous Huxley
I rest my case!
Divell is a good word.
Questioner: Do you believe in the devil.
Once again I must attack the words of Spong with the words of Christ.
Christ said he came into the world to destroy the works of the devil.
Now does Spong think Jesus Christ has something wrong there with his mission? Of course he does. He knows more than Christ.
Doug Spaulding's Bishop Spong has obviously been so abused by the realities of life that he can no longer perceive the realities of Christ. Throw in a measure of sin in the mix and you got a banged-up job of delusion that no one can extricate himself (or herself) from except by the love of Christ. (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free - Jesus Christ)
Doug Spaulding you talk from both sides of your mouth. Mishmash!
Clever. But your argument doesn't hold water. I only talk from one side of my mouth - I learned it from W. C. Fields.
From the script of the Twilight Zone episode
"The howling Man" (emphasis mine):
I'm sorry for you, my son. All your life,
you will remember this night. And you'll
know, Mister Ellington, whom you have turned
loose upon the world.
I-I didn't believe you. I saw him and
didn't recognize him.
That is man's weakness... and Satan's strength.
Ellington stares hard in the direction of the Devil's escape.
Fiction. Reality. Two different things!
You're defending your viewpoint of a theological question by quoting a line from a TV series of fiction.
I once asked George Clayton Johnson which was his favourite episode of the Zone, and he said The Howling Man, by Beaumont. I said I can't pick just one, but it's always been one of my favourites, too.
Well, you seem to enjoy fiction, so...
Besides, I thought it was a very good truth that somehow made it into a '60s television script. Wouldn't make it now; we're all so much more 'enlightened' than our forebears, don't you know.
Here's a cute video I just got: sort of Johnny Cash meets Orthodoxy...
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