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liBRarY, please forgive me, but my English minor and whatever comes rushing forward, but I must point out that that reverting back is a redundancy in that the word revert means "to go back." Just trying to be helpful, not obnoxious. Hey, Doug Spaulding, obnoxious is a good word. | ||||
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As a former English major (before I switched to Theology), I often annoy folks as well (can you imagine such a thing!?) in much the same manner. In fact, I have even been known to correct their writing, and hand them back the paper! "Live Forever!" | ||||
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English major, eh? Here's a classic example of a redundancy (tautology?): "We two both have an apple each." | ||||
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biplane- revert is a verb. So, to refer to a previous condition, such to revert back, is therefore acceptable. | ||||
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So there! That apple thingy is over my head (I said I was a former English Major)! Is Major spelled with a small or large "M"? "Live Forever!" | ||||
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I'm afraid that I, too annoy people by pointing out their misspellings and grammatical errors....and I didn't even go to college. Well, I had the benefit of a couple of excellent English teachers! My children and husband suffer my corrections with absent but essentially good-natured 'Whatever's and continue to say 'me and him,' but I believe in persistence. When I send e-mails to the local-affiliate news programs pointing out that the term 'not hardly' is a double negative, they reply with acknowledgment e-mails but never address my ummm.....'complaint.' Patricia Cornwell is also fond of 'not hardly,' and when I mentioned this to my significant other, he suggested that perhaps I have too much time on my hands. We come from people who brought us up to believe that life is a struggle, and if you should feel really happy, be patient: this will pass. ~~Garrison Keillor | ||||
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Me and him" is correct in an objective case, e.g. "It was fun for me and him." One of my pet peeves is the misuse of "lie" and "lay". I bet most of us mess those up a lot! The rule is "lie" is intransitive (requiring no direct object), and "lay" is transitive (requiring a direct object). There are many more errors that seem to be becoming prevalent; many spread by news reporters and celebrities. We can get into this if anyone would like to... | ||||
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We are getting technical aren't we! liBRarY I stand chastised, or should it be "lie" chastised. Well, anyway, I think that it is neat that we all care enough about each other and what we say that we can, in a good natured way, correct and/or comment on what is said. I have been dreaming of a great convention or gathering of Ray Bradbury Board posters and that we would all be able to travel free and stay at no cost in a central location and Ray would be there as well. And, No. I have not been smoking anything. | ||||
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biplane1, in that dream are we all really there, or are we projected on the walls of a room (as in "The Veldt")? That would keep the travel costs down, but I don't know who would pay for installing the wallscreens... - Phil Deputy Moderator | Visit my Bradbury website: www.bradburymedia.co.uk | Listen to my Bradbury 100 podcast: https://tinyurl.com/bradbury100pod | ||||
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Wow, what a beautiful dream, Biplane! The free travel and lodging just may be a problem! Anyone out there wealthy enough to foot the bill? Hmmm...I wonder if Bill Gates reads much Bradbury... | ||||
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Only if the person is a major Major and not just a major in a major study area or writes music in a major scale. | ||||
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Then you haven't been hanging around GCJ! "Live Forever!" | ||||
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Question: the prepositonal phrase you quoted is correct, but I believe that one always mentions the other person first, thus it should be him and me, no? | ||||
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Generally, yes. I was showing how the exact phrase used by poetesse could be correct. In context, too, one might put oneself first. Taking the example given, it would be semantically correct if you knew it would be fun for you but had doubts about him. | ||||
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I wrote to a semi-famous online sports-writer just a couple of days ago and took him to task for beginning not only sentences but paragraphs with 'Which....' I HATE that. He ignored my e-mail, surprise, surprise. As for the 'me and him,' yes, I know that in some instances it's correct.....But you guys gotta understand something: I live in TEXAS! As the travel ads proclaim, 'it's a whole 'nother country.' When my kids say 'me and him,' it's usually something like "Me 'n' him are gonna go to the game.' As I posted previously, I DO try to gently correct, but I have a whole state against me. Here are some gems I hear in town: "Well, where-abouts is you at?" "They done gone and went to town." "Don't he'p 'em! Let 'em do it theirselfs." This one, however, is my absolutefavorite: "I tell ya, bo-ah, I was mad enough ta sh*t a meat axe!" My kids don't have a chance! We come from people who brought us up to believe that life is a struggle, and if you should feel really happy, be patient: this will pass. ~~Garrison Keillor | ||||
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