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posted 19 June 2004 04:18 PM
I was very disappointed in Ray Bradbury when I read the following :

"LOS ANGELES - Ray Bradbury is demanding an apology from filmmaker Michael Moore (news) for lifting the title from his classic science-fiction novel "Fahrenheit 451" without permission and wants the new documentary "Fahrenheit 9/11" to be renamed.
"He didn't ask my permission," Bradbury, 83, told The Associated Press on Friday. "That's not his novel, that's not his title, so he shouldn't have done it."
The 1953 novel, widely considered Bradbury's masterpiece, portrays an ugly futuristic society in which firemen burn homes and libraries in order to destroy the books inside and keep people from thinking independently.
"Fahrenheit 451" takes its title from the temperature at which books burn. Moore has called "Fahrenheit 9/11" the "temperature at which freedom burns." "

Ray Bradbury behaves like a MAJOR ASS.....!!!
How can one CLAIM a WORD like "Fahrenheit" as "personal property" !?????!
It's simply an instrument for graduation-scale....

What's next ? Should no one use words like "Celsius", "Pound" or "Yard" in a title of a book or film anymore....simply because someone already used those words and - according to dear Ray - as such can now claim them as "personal property" and scream "copyright !" ???

Absolutely ridiculous....

Liked the book Ray, but you really disgust me....

Especially since I heard that a new edition of "Fahrenheit 451" will be coming out in 8 weeks and I suspect you are only looking for some additional press to boost your sales....

Cheap !

Pierke. (Ex-fan)
 
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posted 19 June 2004 04:38 PMHide Post
Before blathering on, read all the other posts on this overblown topic. You are making attacks on Bradbury based on things Bradbury has NOT said, claimed or demanded. Get off your political high horse and deal with the facts.
 
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posted 26 June 2004 10:24 PMHide Post
Pierke
Right, RB is being very childish and egotistical. Very disappointing, it is not the same title.
 
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posted 26 June 2004 10:32 PMHide Post
Bradbury never said it was the same title. So many false statements out here.
 
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posted 26 June 2004 11:46 PMHide Post
"Ray Bradbury is demanding an apology from filmmaker Michael Moore (news) for lifting the title..."

Sound like it to me.
 
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posted 27 June 2004 12:54 AMHide Post
He "lifted" the title and wanted free credibility and publicity by association. That is not the same as copying the title -- something of which Bradbury has not accused him.

Where did Bradbury say the title was the same?

We ARE writing in English, aren't we?
 
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posted 02 July 2004 02:48 AMHide Post
quote:
He "lifted" the title and wanted free credibility and publicity by association.


Michael Moore already has credibility and people would have flock to his movie no matter what the title.

Bradbury should feel honored that somebody would elude to his work. I doubt Kurt Vonnegut would have gotten petty if Michael Moore had entitled his movie "Slaughterhouse 9/11."
 
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posted 04 July 2004 06:53 AMHide Post
Dear Pierke,

Thanks for becoming an ex-fan. If you can write the following:
" Ray Bradbury behaves like a MAJOR ASS.....!!! "

You weren't much of a fan anyway. Please go away and let those that love the work of Ray Bradbury continue in peace.

Be gone!
 
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posted 04 July 2004 06:55 AMHide Post
Be gone, imposter! You don't belong here! Be gone!

quote:
Originally posted by boozemun:
Pierke
Right, RB is being very childish and egotistical. Very disappointing, it is not the same title.
 
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posted 04 July 2004 03:00 PMHide Post
Nebula 1400

Vonegut said that he would ...throw Moore into a vat of molasses...if he dared mess with the Slaughterhouse title.

[This message has been edited by Nard Kordell (edited 07-04-2004).]
 
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posted 05 July 2004 02:19 AMHide Post
Good for Kurt!
...though Moore would probably just eat it...
 
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posted 04 August 2004 07:16 PMHide Post
I love Ray Bradbury and his writing. Fahrenheit 451 is one of the best books ever! But he must know that you can't copyright a title. So why would anyone ask permission?
 
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posted 04 August 2004 08:12 PMHide Post
Arrrrrrrggggghhhh!
 
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posted 04 August 2004 08:30 PMHide Post
Pertaining to .....''Star61''

pterran, Your frustration is understood. For we have people like ''Star61'' make a comment with absolutely no understanding of what has transpired on these boards. The comment is infuriating because it's like after the civil war some yokel comes out of the woods and asks what's all the fuss about.

I'd ask ''Star61'' to read what has already transpired in endless postings under many topic listings...pertaining to this issue. '''Fahrenheit'''..the word... has been for decades associated with Bradbury in the world of publishing. Please! Don't argue the same points. It's already all been argued...

pterran?!! Me too. AAARrrrGGgggHh!!!
 
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posted 07 August 2004 03:06 PMHide Post
Seriously, are people still talking about this? I say, from now on, whenever anyone brings up the Moore/Bradbury title thingy, someone of the regulars here should answer the culprit with a very twisty, confusing, and incomprehesinble post. That way, all those people will get confused, and they;ll go away.
Or keep silent; that works too.
Cheers, Translator
 
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