Groon,

Passion of the Christ? Nooooooo!

Best,

Pete

I wrote a letter to raybert
at his publisher to let him know how
disgusted I am with him and
to let him know what
A HYPOCRITE HE IS

No doubt both Mr. Bradbury and his publisher will be impressed by your erudition.

dandelion:

I'd frame that letter. You never know. The frame may be worth something someday.

Passion is a touch anti-semtitic (but the point is not worth defending), and F911 is not anti-american.

Cheers, Translator

Too opinions I disagree with, Translater. But both have been sufficiently hashed out.

Word!

As for the earlier comment regarding the opinion that the Media is being controlled by the Republicans and their henchmen... I've been actively employed in the Los Angeles Film Industry since 1979. I've worked with dozens of famous Producers & Directors such as James Cameron, Ridley & Tony Scott and Clint Eastwood to name a few, and many Stars (Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, Angeline Jolie, Robert Redford, Governor "Aw-nold", Tom Hanks and many many others) over the years...and to this very day I am still working in Film Production as I write this. Just finished "Mr.& Mrs. Smith" and I'm now starting on "Fun with Dick & Jane" (a Jim Carey & Cameron Diaz remake of the old Jane Fonda / George Segal comedy)... and all I can say is this:

If anyone really thinks that the Media, which for the point of this arguement I'll define as the Film, TV & Music Industry, as well as Corporate Publishing Empires and also those Media Power Brokers on Madison Avenue (aka the Advertising Industry)... If you really think that these multi-billion dollar Conglomerate Multi-national Empires are being run by Conservatives... you've got no idea about what you're talking about and are probably of that same school that would argue that "Sex & Violence in Film & TV has little or no effect on the masses!" which is another insane arguement, because if people ARE NOT influenced by what they see and hear on TV, why is the Advertising Industry a multi-billion doallr Industry?

This last issue is an easier point to debate than trying to argue the fact that the majority of Hollywood Studios (from Major Studios to small Production Houses that only make TV commercials) are currently either under assault by, or being controlled by the Ultra-Liberal and (as many "Film Pros" like myself that work "Below the line" call it) the "Gay Mafia."

Case in point, why in the world would anyone put two "Gay" dinosaurs (as comic relief) in the Disney animated film "ICE AGE", other than to push a Pro-Gay (Liberal)agenda? Have you noticed the increase in the number of TV shows where couples are now openly promiscious? Or the increase in the number of TV shows with Gay characters? And be sure to catch the premiere of MTV's new "GAY channel" for all you confused and mixed up teenagers!

If you don't think Hollywood has a Liberal agenda, you're as blind as all those people who waved their flags and cheered as Adolf Hitler passed by in his open Mercedes when he rode through Berlin in 1928.

The Liberal Media is the tool of the new Socialist Party... It's all fun & games now, but just wait and see how it will very soon be totally intolerant of any FREE SPEECH that does not go along with "its" agenda...

If you don't believe me, why all the fuss about our national motto "In God We Trust"?

The Media is controlled by the Liberals because that's the easiest way to make money... by spouting idealistic platitudes, and then cashing in, in a very big way...

How many Rap Music producers have you met? Most of the successful ones live in Beverly Hills and have their kids enrolled in very expensive private schools and refuse to allow them to dress like the idiots in the Music Videos they produce and make their millions from! It's all about the money... It's nothing but hypocracy. Check out the ACLU... the poison-tipped dagger used by the Media Elite.

One word: WOW.
Cheers, Translator

I never really saw the need for the inclusion of "Under God" in the Pledge, or "In God we Trust" on the currency. They were not there until rather recent times. It always seemed to beg the question, which God. Why not Supreme Being or Archetect of the Universe, but then that begs other questions. I guess it was just simpler to let everyone have their own concept here and eliminate the controversy, since we can never agree on the definition anyway. I really wonder what the Universalist / Unitarian founders of the country would think of this discussion? They made it pretty simple: believe what you want and let other do the same. Let government stay out of the religion business and we will all get along just fine. Sounds like a good plan to me. Why change it?

Boy, we are diverting all over the place these days.

To say that the country was founded by Universalist Unitarians is not the same as to say that there were Universalist Unitarians involved in its founding. I would suggest a higher percentage were probably Deists.

But I'd need to go read a tally to be sure, and then we'd argue over what the differences are between Christians, Universalists, Unitarians, Universalist Unitarians, Evangelicals, Fundamentalists, liberal Christians, Mainstream protestants, Catholics, etc.

Do we really want to go here?




[This message has been edited by Mr. Dark (edited 07-08-2004).]

Unitarians and Universalists may have been around for centuries before America was founded, but weren't really organized under those names until after the Revolution.

quote:

Originally posted by dandelion:
Unitarians and Universalists may have been around for centuries before America was founded, but weren't really organized under those names until after the Revolution.

I offer the following for your perusal: http://www.famousuus.com/american.htm

While we're following this tangent, here are some other historical insights.

Mr. Dark:

A quick way to seperate everybody into neat columns, is by one question:

Who do you think Jesus Christ is?

For those who think he was 'a god'...there is that church you can go.

If you think he was merely a man, there's that place you can go.

If you think he was God in the flesh, o'er
there with you.

Another divider, is...in the ressurection.

Bodily
Spiritually only
No ressurection
etc etc

Two or three questions, and you make a nifty little picture of who believes in what...