Juana de Asbaje aka Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz is a good word.

Speaking of muses-

"The sea had jeeringly kept his finite body up, but drowned the infinite of his soul. Not drowned entirely, though. Rather carried down alive to wondrous depths, where strange shapes of the unwarped primal world glided to and fro before his passive eyes; and the miser-merman, Wisdom, revealed his hoarded heaps; and among the joyous, heartless, ever juvenile eternities, Pip saw the multitudinous, God-omnipresent, coral insects, that out of the firmament of waters heaved the colossal orbs. He saw God's foot upon the treadle of the loom, and spoke it; and therefore his shipmates called him mad. So man's insanity is heaven's sense' and wandering from all mortal reason, man comes at last to that celestial thought, which, to reason, is absurd and frantic; and weal or woe, feels then uncompromised, indifferent as his God."

--MOBY DICK
When Melville wrote this, was he Bible inspired or muse inspired?

Back into the question:

quote:

"Stoneman and Black drew forth their rulebooks, which also contained brief histories of the Firemen of America, and laid them out where Montag, though long familiar with them, might READ:

Established, 1790, to burn English-influenced books in the Colonies. First Fireman: Benjamin Franklin."

So, people can read manuals or comic books, but BAD books like those from people like Hemigway, Poe are not permitted.

Best regards!

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Phil Knox~

Likely Christian. Since Herman Melville was essentially brought up by his mother, who was a Christian, and it has been written that Melville was deeply influenced by his mother's reading of the stories from the Bible. Also, later in life Melville bought a farm near the home of Nathaniel Hawthorne and became close friends with Hawthorne starting with the writing of Moby Dick. Hawthorne was raised a Puritan and considered himself a Christian. Perhaps some of the faith Hawthorne had influenced Melville. The faith of Hawthorne:

http://www.apuritansmind.com/TULIP/TULIP.htm

Johnny Holly~
Thanks! Popular reading of 'Fahrenheit 451' has many readers with the idea that banning any book for any reason is wrong. Some of the founding fathers of the United States would heartily disagree! For instance, John Adams reasoned that only true freedom of the press was for those who had the moral decency and intelligence to use the press 'wisely'.

No one said Ray Bradbury wasn't complicated!

How is it that Ray Radbury dismisses any notion of intelligent life on other planets, unless Earthlings put it there? Scientists lately even said as many as 100 million planets in our local galaxies may be habitable, and I would take it to mean habitable with life. Intelligent life? Hell, my dog is intelligent and he looks like he could be from another planet.

Well, I dunno about dogs from another planet, but here is one earthling who put the first paws on the stellar sky.

496_laikamonument.jpg (81 Kb, 12 downloads)

Hey! Hang in there! The Russians want to follow up this dog trail with...monkeys to Mars!

That is what they are working on today. If the Darwin darlings say man was chipped away from the monkey, well, we might just see the beginning process of that in present time.

(But then, the Russians are also devising plans for sending bacteria, seeds and spores to one of the moons of Mars. If you happen to see one of the Russian scientists somewhere, ask him "Why?")

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Darwin darlings say man was chipped away from the monkey

Nobody says this. Human and monkeys have common ancestors according to theory based on Darwin's works.

Hey, Pavel! Hello!

Chipped away from the monkeys...was my way of saying the same thing you said.

Also, looks like the Russian space-program is in trouble. Maybe no monkeys on Mars for awhile. And no spores on Phobos.

http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n0904/25russia/

Darwin's Theory was just that...a Theory. He said that himself not long before he died. Survival of the fitness, etc. Hey people, wake up...there are still monkeys here on earth. They did not die off after eveloving into humans. Each species is a distinct God created species. Monkeys are still here!

Gravity is also a Theory.

In June of 2008, the late Nard Kordell, Ray Bradbury's fine and good friend (and frequent poster on this Board), took questions for Ray from other Board members, posed them to Ray, and posted Ray's answers. Those questions and answers appear in the very first post in this thread, which I resurrecting for newcomers. So move back to page 1 of this lengthy thread (by clicking on the number 1 in the lower right hand corner), and hear from Ray himself!

Like I have said before, there is a lot of interesting "stuff" on this Board.