28 June 2008, 11:33 PM
Doug SpauldingReligion 101 or How is the orange crop doing?
quote:
Originally posted by theoctobercountry:
Hmmm, if I can find the time I think I'll stick around for a while...
I think you'll find it very rewarding - these are really good people (even Mr Knox).
28 June 2008, 11:37 PM
Doug SpauldingAlright folks - I'm going to retire, I gotta get up and go to preachin' in the morning.
28 June 2008, 11:50 PM
Phil KnoxOh Gawd!
Not a liberal nonsense Spong offshoot!
29 June 2008, 03:54 AM
philnicBeen away from the board for 24 hours.
Came back, found "Religion 101" had gained three or more extra pages.
Arguments back and forth, something to do with angels on the heads of a pin. Or which end to eat an egg from.
Memo to self: stay away from this thread!
29 June 2008, 11:35 AM
Doug Spauldingquote:
Originally posted by Phil Knox:
Oh Gawd!
Not a liberal nonsense Spong offshoot!
Preachin'!Watch in high quality, but watch.
30 June 2008, 09:15 PM
Doug Spauldingquote:
Originally posted by Braling II:
Not everyone thinks the Bible word-for-word isn't the voice of God, either.
I prefer to read what those brilliant folks who lived and died for Christ had to say regarding the understanding of the Scriptures; St. John Chrisostom, St. Athanasius, St. Gregory The Theologian, St. John of Damascus, to name a few.
Chrysostom held Jews responsible for the crucifixion of Jesus and deicide and added that they continued to rejoice in Jesus's death. He compared the synagogue to a pagan temple, representing it as the source of all vices and heresies. He described it as a place worse than a brothel and a drinking shop; it was a den of scoundrels, the repair of wild beasts, a temple of demons, the refuge of brigands and debauchees, and the cavern of devils, a criminal assembly of the assassins of Christ. Finally, he declared that he hated the synagogue and the Jews.
I'm not too sure how much Jesus he reflected.
30 June 2008, 09:29 PM
Braling IIAnd your source(s) for this diatribe?
(I know your motives now)
30 June 2008, 09:40 PM
Doug Spauldingquote:
Originally posted by Braling II:
And your source(s) for this diatribe?
History.
30 June 2008, 09:42 PM
Braling IIOh, never mind. Lifted from Wiki, of course.
(The same entry also includes "...A discourse against the Jews; but it was delivered against those who were Judaizing and keeping the fasts with them [the Jews]."[45] As such, some have claimed that the original title misrepresents the contents of the discourses, which show that Chrysostom's primary targets were members of his own congregation who continued to observe the Jewish feasts and fasts. Sir Henry Savile, in his 1612 edition of Homilies 27 of Volume 6 (which is Discourse I in Patrologia Graeca's Adversus Iudaeos), gives the title: "Chrysostom's Discourse Against Those Who Are Judaizing and Observing Their Fasts.")
My point, long ago stated, still stands. I prefer the words of those who lived and died for Christ.
Poor lost boy.
30 June 2008, 09:52 PM
Doug SpauldingSpeaking of "tribe", watch this wonderful lecture on the reason so many religious people use their religion to foster hate.
Tribal religion: the terrible texts.
30 June 2008, 10:25 PM
Nicoquote:
Originally posted by Doug Spaulding:
quote:
Originally posted by Braling II:
Not everyone thinks the Bible word-for-word isn't the voice of God, either.
I prefer to read what those brilliant folks who lived and died for Christ had to say regarding the understanding of the Scriptures; St. John Chrisostom, St. Athanasius, St. Gregory The Theologian, St. John of Damascus, to name a few.
Chrysostom held Jews responsible for the crucifixion of Jesus and deicide and added that they continued to rejoice in Jesus's death. He compared the synagogue to a pagan temple, representing it as the source of all vices and heresies. He described it as a place worse than a brothel and a drinking shop; it was a den of scoundrels, the repair of wild beasts, a temple of demons, the refuge of brigands and debauchees, and the cavern of devils, a criminal assembly of the assassins of Christ. Finally, he declared that he hated the synagogue and the Jews.
And Marcus Aurelius MURDERED Christians!
But we still gain from his writings, do we not?
30 June 2008, 11:53 PM
Doug Spauldingquote:
Originally posted by Nico:
And Marcus Aurelius MURDERED Christians! But we still gain from his writings, do we not?
Perhaps some do. I do not know.
01 July 2008, 12:00 AM
Nicoquote:
Originally posted by Doug Spaulding:
quote:
Originally posted by Nico:
And Marcus Aurelius MURDERED Christians! But we still gain from his writings, do we not?
Perhaps some do. I do not know.
I just finished the Spong video, Douglas. Many things very well put, he is a good man. Thank you for sharing it.
01 July 2008, 12:15 AM
Doug Spauldingquote:
Originally posted by Nico:
I just finished the Spong video, Douglas. Many things very well put, he is a good man. Thank you for sharing it.
Thanks for watching!