Nico- How naive.

You never heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls? The translation is identical to the Biblical text we have today.

To the Muslim, Jesus is a prophet, nothing else. If you are a practicing Muslim, you cannot have a daughter in your family going out with a Christian believer. Usually they beat her to a pulp in the Islamic culture. Another man can never look at a married woman's face, or body, in public. You catch those women draped black with a little laced vent for their mouth and eyesight at the local Mall? For those who firmly adhere to Islamic teaching, it's always been that way. Author Salman Rushdie got into big trouble with his book, Satanic Verses, because he divulged verses that were dictated by the devil to Muhammad, an event that was never to be made public or the person would be put to death. Hence, Rushdie has had a death warrant on his life since the publication of the book. Different groups have offered large rewards for Rushdie's life, including Iran. The amount at one time was in excess of $2 Million US dollars.

And the British taxpayer is footing the bill ...

Correction! It cost us £2million plus to protect Rushdie's freedom of speech. Voltaire had his moments, but he got it right on this one.

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To the Muslim, Jesus is a prophet, nothing else. If you are a practicing Muslim, you cannot have a daughter in your family going out with a Christian believer. Usually they beat her to a pulp in the Islamic culture. Another man can never look at a married woman's face, or body, in public. You catch those women draped black with a little laced vent for their mouth and eyesight at the local Mall? For those who firmly adhere to Islamic teaching, it's always been that way. Author Salman Rushdie got into big trouble with his book, Satanic Verses, because he divulged verses that were dictated by the devil to Muhammad, an event that was never to be made public or the person would be put to death. Hence, Rushdie has had a death warrant on his life since the publication of the book. Different groups have offered large rewards for Rushdie's life, including Iran. The amount at one time was in excess of $2 Million US dollars.

This is all common knowledge.

Nico: You didn't make it sound that way! Whatever you do don't say anything bad about Muhammad. But you can bad mouth Jesus and insult His love.

By the way, you didn't want to include the Dead Sea Scrolls in the retrieved quote above?

One last one: The original signers of the Declaration would never recognize our freedom of speech today. It was supposed to always be created by moral judgment and sound character. Today's freedom of speech would be foreign to the framers of the constitution.

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Originally posted by Phil Knox:
Nico- How naive.

Or as Barney Fife would say: how nave!

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Originally posted by Phil Knox:
Usually they beat her to a pulp in the Islamic culture.

Mr Knox is right on the money, as they say (no cliche intended). At Bel Air Pres, our sister church is in Egypt, and through them we heard of a recent incident in which a young woman was killed by her family for converting to Christianity.

Fundamentalists are dangerous persons.

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Originally posted by Phil Knox:
Author Salman Rushdie got into big trouble with his book, Satanic Verses, because he divulged verses that were dictated by the devil to Muhammad...

What devil?

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Originally posted by Phil Knox:
But you can bad mouth Jesus and insult His love.

I didn't see Nico bad-mouthing Jesus (or insulting his love).

Reading "Christianity on Trial", which I recently read, would benefit anyone interested in the Founding Fathers and the history of our country, especially regarding Christianity.

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Originally posted by Phil Knox:
By the way, you didn't want to include the Dead Sea Scrolls in the retrieved quote above?

Now Mr Knox, don't be so paranoid.

This subject is headed straight for The Orange Crop!

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Originally posted by Doug Spaulding:
[QUOTE]What devil?

No one says "what devil?" unless they mean there is No devil! Spaulding, are you a Jehovah Witness?

Spaulding, your cover is blown!

Now, if you had asked "Which devil?" it would be a different matter...

FURTHER CORRECTION. It cost the British public FOUR MILLION smackeroonies (approx 8m US dollars) for Special Branch to protect Mr Rushdie over a 4-year period. Whether it was Rushdie's naivety, his publishers' or that of his antagonists one can only conjecture.

And, yes, Mr Spaulding, young women are frequently murdered for failing to comply with their menfolks' irrational beliefs both here and abroad.

Fundamentalism of any stripe is abhorrent, whether initiated by Jim Jones, David Koresh or the perpetrators of your New York or our London atrocities.

Braling II! You sound so lovely. I could do with a hug but you're 3,000 miles away ...