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MICHAEL MOORE SAYS IT ALL: I'M SORRY !

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22 June 2004, 01:00 AM
Nard Kordell
MICHAEL MOORE SAYS IT ALL: I'M SORRY !
Apologetic Moore reported as such by the newspapers:
http://www.canada.com/entertainment/movies/story.html?id=489c388b-a85c-485d-b492-70071f256d53
22 June 2004, 10:30 PM
Nard Kordell
Poor Moore. Really!

He couldn't get the ratings lowered to PG 13. He thought that showing an actual beheading in Saudi Arabia would be something they could let the kids off at the matinee for. Well, sneaking around in multi-plex theaters is rampant, so they'll likely see it anyway.

Article in today's 'Chicago Tribune' does refer to Moore's borrowing ""Fahrenheit"" from the title of Ray Bradbury's classic novel, ''Fahrenheit 451''. Something like borrowing a cup of sugar is it?
23 June 2004, 12:24 AM
TaoistBoy
Nard, dumb...
23 June 2004, 12:43 AM
Nard Kordell
TaoistBoy

I agree. Thought so, too.

By the way, since this flare up in recent days surrounding numbers that refer to a temperature, interesting to note that the word 'temperature' comes from a word denoting 'mixture', relative to the words 'temperament' and 'temper'. Evolved later as a term for... 'mild weather'.

Temperaments have been wild. Tempers has been all over the place. And there has been very little 'mild weather'.



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24 June 2004, 06:15 PM
datafella
Since Bradbury is a thief himself, he should sit down and SHUDDUP.

Macbeth, Act 4, Scene 1, Second witch:

By the pricking of my thumb, something wicked this way comes.

How can a thief complain about another thief?
24 June 2004, 11:48 PM
Mr. Dark
Didn't you post this EXACT same thing elsewhere in these threads? Nice work.
25 June 2004, 12:18 AM
Pulpmariachi
Wasn't SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES actually supposed to reference MACBETH? Wasn't he going for that weird, eerie feeling that you get from the witches with his creations in his book?

I haven't actually read this book yet (and I kick myself for not doing so) so I don't know what all the charecters are like.
26 June 2004, 06:32 PM
Klem_Kadiddle
As far as I know, Shakespeare is now in the public domain; I can print any of his works I want, get paid for them, and not have to give any money to his descendants (if he has any known ones).
26 June 2004, 08:40 PM
Nard Kordell
Klem_Kadiddle

I think the Red Skelton Family would object to your using the full name of Klem. What do you think?

Mickey Mouse almost suffered the same fateof being public domain last couple years, until Disney bailed him out at the last minute. Boy, what a catch that would have been for 'Public Domain'.
06 July 2004, 01:37 PM
groon
You guys got it all wrong. Yes, Ray Bradbury is a THIEF, but he didn't get it from "Shake Spear" or "Mack Beth," or whatever you're talking about. DUH! He obviously STOLE it straight out of the Harry Potter movie!
07 July 2004, 05:51 PM
Translator
Goddamn best reply I've seen today! Cheers, Groon!
Cheers, Translator
02 June 2006, 07:29 AM
fjp451
http://news.google.com/news?q=wounded+soldier+sues+mich...a=X&oi=news&ct=title


Truth and Consequences!
02 June 2006, 11:43 AM
dandelion
Michael Moore should apologize for himself, should any apology be adequate.

Did he say, "I'm sorry" as in "I express regret," or "I'm a sorry so-and-so"?

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02 June 2006, 06:50 PM
Robert M Blevins
I'm sure Bradbury was fully aware that intelligent readers would figure out where the title of the book originated...
Tempest in a teacup.

Other poster was right, old Bill's stuff is in domain anyway.

On another note, guess which old-time sci-fi writer's works are still protected? (the answer is not Ray, obviously)

H.G. Wells.
Yes. Wells died in 1940. Most of his copyrights extend until at least 2016, or thereabouts. This is why you see no rewrites of 'The Time Machine.'

Robert M. Blevins

By the way!!! My sincere thanks to Biplane 1 for sending me that wonderful Fahrenheit 451 package from the National Endowment of the Arts!!
03 June 2006, 02:48 AM
Walloon
The Time Machine was first published in 1895.

The Sonny Bono Copyright Extension Act of 1998 did not restore copyright protection to any works that are in the public domain. Before the 1998 extension, the maximum copyright term in the U.S. was 75 years.

1998 – 75 = 1923

All works of H.G. Wells published before 1923 are now in the public domain in the United States, including The Island of Dr. Moreau, The Invisible Man, The War of the Worlds, and The First Men in the Moon. Those copyrights expired in the 1950s, when the maximum copyright term was 56 years.

Still under copyright is The Shape of Things to Come (1933).

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