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(*sigh*) Again, I ask, doesn't anyone read the (as C.S.Lewis fondly calls them) Old Writers anymore? Greater intellects than ours have delved deeper, thought longer, and discussed at greater length with like minds these issues... We are a more narcissistic generation, though, so I suppose all this "I wanna figger it out myself" attitude is to be expected. Interesting, though, is it not, how so much of these types of discussions and travesties like the 'tomb of Jesus' TV pap seem to appear around Pascha (Easter) each year, and with undeniably greater frequency and hype? Lord, have mercy on us. Well, I'm going to be very busy with Holy Week services (both Old and New calendar agree this year), and going to England after Pascha, so I may not check in very often for a few weeks. By all means let's 'get back to Ray', and maybe read "Mere Christianity" in the meantime? God bless you all 'til we meet again. | ||||
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There is nothing new under the sun. Period. | ||||
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The burning of the Library at Alexandria was perhaps the greatest loss of theological acadaemia the world has ever known. patrask, your final sentence is the mark of a very intelligent person. Next time I'm in greater Laguna, let's go round to the pub and discuss deep theological issues (and perhaps have a pint!) "Live Forever!" | ||||
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Do you know, in the Dark Ages (even into the Middle), the "Christian" church could put one to death for claiming the earth was round! My, the things one learns over time! Fruitcake maybe - but I'll be a 'nut' for Jesus before I'll be a pawn of the Church any day! Fool's Gold, my hand-stitching friend; it's waiting in a crown. "Some may call me foolish, some may call me odd. But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of men than a fool in the eyes of God." - Bob Hartman "Live Forever!" | ||||
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I believe patrask was using a metaphor (the Breakfast of Champions!). Giving up means to die. "Live Forever!" | ||||
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No, that's OK, Robert - that's why this thread was created. Thanks for bringing up the DNA thing. I had a lot to say about it myself, but just didn't want to get too deep at one time. Give me a little time - we'll talk about Cro-Magnon Man! "Live Forever!" | ||||
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Doug Spaulding. Your are probably a pretty nice fellow in person, but as a raised Roman Catholic, I find your ideas of Christ and the Christian life repugnant. | ||||
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embroiderer said:
Now...wait a moment here. How much do we REALLY know about the world around us and what's out there? For man to make a smug statement like that is like two ants sitting on an anthill in the middle of the Sahara and postulating about what the rest of the world is like... We're still in the Stone Age. We just THINK we know everything.  | ||||
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RMB: Stand by that old saying. Even in scripture it says when it comes the time to stand before your God, or when the end of life on this world and this world finishes, people will still be eating and drinking and giving in marriage and on and on and all things will be like they were in the beginning. Thumbnail sketch means, there's nothing new under the sun, nothing changes. We're not talking rocket science here! | ||||
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I am partial to Irish coffee. patrask2@cox.net | ||||
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It is for Ray that I am most grateful, he is a voice for the spirit of Mankind and always urged that we should leave our tiny little womb here on Earth and explore the Universe, to ensure our survival and to increase the wonderment that we would find around us. I find that mission as a true search for GOD. There are those who find it comforting to eat the spoon-fed answers that come from religion, much as they ate the Pamblem that was fed to them by their Mothers, as that is the easiest and least troubling way for them to live their lives, with the priviso that the NEXT LIFE will be better. I choose to spend my allotted time learning all that I can about the world around me. Unfortunately, that means that the sphere of unanswered questions will continue to increase, not a comforting feeling for some. Some religions have historically purposefully prevented such questioning as heretical and used the fear of not making it into the NEXT LIFE as punishment for that kind of intellectual behavior. That is nothing new. Knowlidge is power. If the shaman knew when the next eclipse was to occur he had emense power over the people and protected that information jealously. So, one story, one religion, all is well, let us take care of your spiritual life and you will be happy. What if being happy is all about learning? I am proud to die as the heretic that I am. | ||||
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... No one wants to freely admit they are born with a nature that sins. For relief, it would require the sinless nature Jesus gives. Then were would that leave you? ... _____________ If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not able to be in us. 1st John, 1 Who can forgive sin? The question was asked Jesus 2000 years ago. He was standing in the midst of a cripple. His response was also a question, but followed by action. It went like this: Jesus asked, "What is easier to do, forgive sin, or for me to tell this cippled man to get up and walk? I shall do the easier thing." And Jesus commanded the crippled man to get up and walk, and the man got up and went home. ....This message has been edited. Last edited by: Nard Kordell, | ||||
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I would live by The Golden Rule, do unto others what you would have done to you. Then there is no reason for sin. We just learn to help one other and empathsize with each other's failings. Love is all you really need - John Lennon. | ||||
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Thank you. I am nice! You're probably nice yourself. "Live Forever!" | ||||
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No offence to your denomination, but the RC Church has done a dreadful job of teaching the historical Christ! "Live Forever!" | ||||
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