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21 January 2010, 06:00 AM
fjp451
Quote of the Day
A statesman is a politician who’s been dead ten or 15 years.

-- Harry S. Truman
21 January 2010, 07:58 PM
Kukai_Aoki
A desperate disease requires a desperate cure.

-- Guy Fawkes


"Oh, death!"
21 January 2010, 08:35 PM
fjp451
"It was a pleasure to burn!"

--Ray Bradbury

Ah, yes..."Guido" Fawkes!
(And of course, Guy Montag - his name suggests two significant possibilities — Guy Fawkes, the instigator of a plot to blow up the English Houses of Parliament in 1605, and Montag, a trademark of Mead, an American paper company, which makes -ironically - stationery and furnaces.) http://mycontemplations.files..../03/burning_book.jpg
22 January 2010, 04:49 AM
philnic
I am aware of the "corporate" connotations of the name Montag, but I have always thought the literal meaning (German for "Monday", the start of a new cycle of days) was significance enough for the fireman's surname.


- Phil

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22 January 2010, 06:05 AM
fjp451
Phil,
Good one! I had not heard that previously. In view of the metaphor it does make sense. How much of these interesting twists did Mr. B purposefully conjure as he was running up and down the stairs from the basement to the bookshelves of the UCLA Library back in early 1951 ("The Fire Man")?

Then this irony: "Faber" is the name of a pencil manufacturing company. Bradbury also chuckles about this in his afterword. In many ways, Faber, the instructing professor, is like a pencil, writing on Montag's notepad. On a metaphorical level, Faber symbolizes the tool (as his name implies) of learning.

Blessed "Peter Faber" also met St. Ignatius (of Loyola) and became one of his associates. He tutored Ignatius in the Greek philosophy of Aristotle while Ignatius tutored the former shepherd in spiritual matters.

Like Montag, St. Ignatius goes on to greater things, in the world's view. So, the tutor (Faber) made the difference but remained somewhat in the background!
22 January 2010, 11:09 AM
philnic
To us Brits, "Faber" has instant connotations of publishing, because Faber is a famous British publisher - see Wikipedia entry here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faber_and_Faber

I can't help thinking that Ray must have had a few Faber books on his shelves in the early 1950s, as they published a lot of poetry.


- Phil

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23 January 2010, 01:51 PM
Kukai_Aoki
What delightful irony!

I was not thinking of a connection between Guy Fawkes and Guy Montag when I was posting that quote.

...or was I? Subconsciously Guided? I think so!


"Oh, death!"
23 January 2010, 01:52 PM
Kukai_Aoki
quote:
Originally posted by Kukai_Aoki:
Subconsciously Guided?


(sniff, sniff)

I smell story title!


"Oh, death!"
29 January 2010, 05:02 AM
fjp451
Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore,
While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
As of someone gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door.
"Tis some visitor," I muttered, "tapping at my chamber door--
Only this, and nothing more."

E.A. Poe
(RB's Papa)

"The Raven" published today in the New York Evening Mirror, 1/29/1845.
29 January 2010, 06:57 PM
Braling II
Aaaahhh...
02 February 2010, 10:19 AM
jkt
We give dogs’ time we can spare, space we can spare and love we can spare. In return, dogs give us their all. It’s the best deal man has ever made. - Margery Facklam


John King Tarpinian
You know what you are, Mr. Bradbury? ... You are a poet! -- Aldous Huxley
04 February 2010, 05:58 PM
Kukai_Aoki
I must create a system or be enslaved by another mans; I will not reason and compare: my business is to create. - William Blake


"Oh, death!"
09 February 2010, 06:42 AM
fjp451
We are always paid for our suspicion by finding what we suspect.

- Henry David Thoreau
16 February 2010, 08:17 PM
Kukai_Aoki
Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first.

-- Mark Twain


"Oh, death!"
19 February 2010, 09:04 PM
Doug Spaulding
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