24 September 2004, 09:59 PM
Green ShadowYea, Frank Darabont!!
Frank,
Good luck to you in the remake of F-451! When you entrust your childhood dreams into the film of a lifetime, nothing but good will come your way.
Save me a front row seat at the premiere near Ray!
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-film.html?2004-09/24/13.00.film01 October 2004, 04:33 PM
groonI just hope he doesn't make it too political. That would kill it if he tied political agenda to it, but I'm sure it'll be fine though, and the fact that he co-produced the recent film "Collateral" (awesomeness) gives me great hope. At least we know he has good taste.
03 February 2005, 03:30 PM
scarywarholHope it's not as schmaltzy as the Shawshank Redemption or The Majestic. Good movies, but my god the man does not know when to let up!
03 February 2005, 03:45 PM
biplane1I remember way back in 1996 Ray telling me as I sat across from him in his living room/library that Mel Gibson had bought the rights to F451. And to think that almost ten years later it might get re-made.
Wow!
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25 February 2005, 01:59 PM
ChristosF451 is an inherently political movie. I don't see how it can be made without an attendant political subtext. I think you should be more worried about your "news" being brought to you without a political agenda.
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Originally posted by groon:
I just hope he doesn't make it too political. That would kill it if he tied political agenda to it, but I'm sure it'll be fine though, and the fact that he co-produced the recent film "Collateral" (awesomeness) gives me great hope. At least we know he has good taste.
25 February 2005, 07:22 PM
Mr. DarkHmmmm. I loved The Shawshank Redemption. Although there were a couple slow spots, I also enjoyed The Majestic.
I do think there is an inherent politcal bent to F451 -- but that depends on what you mean by political. If you mean it would necessarily be anti-Republican or anti-Democratic, I think that would be assuming too much.
I also think the story is inherently a moral tale on what happens when we cede our right to learn and lose our desire to learn. Some of the censorship was self-driven through laziness and fear. Not all censorship was imposed by government.
10 March 2005, 12:00 AM
groonI agree totally, Mr. Dark. I was actually going to write something similar, but now I don't need to. I just don't want somebody to turn it into a this party/that party right and left kind of thing. I'm so sick of hearing people say "oh F451 is about this candidate or that party or etcetera." I really feel that those people have missed the point. The book is about people in general, about conformity, about the powers of the masses over the individual. And, yes it is about government and censorship, but not about partisan politics. I thought the film "the Manchurian Candidate" (both versions, though I never read the book) did a really good job of creating political intrigue that instilled a horror of the government, yet did not make a target out of any particular party, creed, or individual. It simply played on the evil greed and shiftiness of politicians in general.
So yes, while F451 can not avoid being political in one sense of the word, I originally meant that it should not be loaded with political agenda.
P.S. I really dislike the fact that Hollywood only does remakes and adaptations these days, but I must say the new version of the Manchurian Candidate with Denzel was really great!
05 May 2005, 01:38 PM
fjpalumboAny one with an update on F451 re-make which brought Mr. B and Mr. D together about a year ago? Things sure do seem to move slowly in Hollywood.